the other Juditha

music for the the early schedule. I quite like waking up early enough to see early sunlight slowly creeping in before filling the entire living space, now that all the trees are leaf-free. and, some music of course, on the nice speakers, all before needing to pack and head for the office. I really like the “swinging” feeling in Mozart’s music, something we hear all the time especially in all his earlier operas. And it’s a treat hearing SM’s phrasing within it. This was from a radio broadcast a while back in Wien:
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(there are several more clips from the same broadcasts, all on operabaroque channel . I especially like “Del pari infeconda” also, and have downloaded it for the phone. Though strangely I don’t hear the Mozart swing as much in that as the one posted here.)

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writing-challenged opera-addict

18 Responses to the other Juditha

  1. dehggial says:

    she sounds very heroic! I think Hallenberg does this one as well, but she sounds rather smiley.

    • thả diều says:

      smiley? i should read the libretto.. i read somewhere a review that said she was not heroic enough! but let me go search for A.Hallenberg, coz judging by her other Juditha we shouldnt be surprised to hear her singing very well deep in the contralto range! (speaking of heroic i woke up with this tune VK sang in the gaining-entrance-to-hell scene as Orphée, and not just the tune but her entire entrance too.. with the violin, standing high, and the sea (of singers) parted to let her demonstrate how to enter a door..

      • dehggial says:

        i read somewhere a review that said she was not heroic enough!

        hehe, that’s the thing with opinions, right? I was judging her against herself but I can hear the heroic intention in her voice.

        • thả diều says:

          (ok, i give in, where did you find AH singing this? i googled for like 15min! but am now settling N.Stutzmann’s, pretty heroic 🙂 )

          • thả diều says:

            ps- ah, i get it now, once i typed the correct name of the aria, a list of contraltos comes up 😉 , now onto MN.Lemieux … ah, veryyy different take that SM and NS ! a bit “defiant” instead of heroic…

          • thả diều says:

            ps2- you should definitely give MNL a listen, all to the end.. quite interesting she gives off different personality (of Giuditta) along the way.

            i’m now onto Mijanovic

          • dehggial says:

            I was definitely going to, especially after you made the connection with Venga pur (I love her Venga pur! hers and VK’s are my top faves).

          • thả diều says:

            (although i have to admit i made the connection to Venga already from SM’s version.. the beginning and the end really sounded to me like Venga, in the music,and the Mozart “feel” to it, which was what i also mentioned in the main post.. I think because we have never heard SM sung Mozart before, it was so interesting for me to hear her sing “Mozart” and how surprising it was that the “Mozart” bit screamed out to me 🙂

          • Agathe says:

            Interesting, MNL actually works best for me of these versions, she sounds determined and a bit mad to me, fitting to the character.
            But maybe it’s also because it’s rare to hear deep contraltos sing Mozart, maybe just weird for the brain to adapt, and MNL has a slightly brighter timbre.
            I do like SM’s version, but it is a bit puzzling as well, sounds more tragic than heroic to me, but that’s a voice thing, independent of interpretation.

          • thả diều says:

            i think i’ll have to dig up a whole opera and have a go, coz listening to isolated arias really gives no clue as to what’s going on (the flow) .. i’m still not reading up the libretto yet, coz i think most of the time i’m able to tease it out of the music (if i know the music) . At least we know the character hasn’t changed, not like Euridice in Gluck vs Offenbach 😀 .. but without the flow i can’t tell between heroic / tragic etc.. but it’s true we can hear a very different character with MNL! (not the voice, but the phrasing, for me..) Still waiting for Dehggi to point to A.Hallenberg’s take, which she said was “smiley”!

          • Agathe says:

            Well, the character could have a different touch than in Vivaldi, also depending on the time points of the storyline, but the beheading thing is fixed I guess, so, I also wonder where “smiley” fits in.

          • thả diều says:

            although i think you did not quite hear SP’s Juditha quite fitting, is that right? even though i love her approach (vocally) in that. So perhaps it’s also a matter of how we “think” the cahracter per description should be? I can adapt to all approaches if I can hear the whole opera usually, as i think there are many ways to chop 😎

          • Agathe says:

            I think it’s more a matter of not being used to hear SM in this music (meaning early Mozart baroque-style aria). I guess, to me, the music would call for a powerful, ‘heroic’ approach, and that is not something I would immediately associate with Mingardo. Maybe one could say she seems to subtle for this rather straightforward (but fun!) music? But I may just need more listening time to get used to it.

          • Agathe says:

            Oh, wait, you’re talking about SP’s Juditha, sorry, I got distracted by a clip of DB’s Maffio Orsini in the meantime and mixed it up. Hmm, hard to say if she didn’t fit my idea of the character, I think it was more the tessitura that seemed a tiny bit on the high side for her. Actually, I could totally imagine her playing a convincing Juditha (but I’d still like her better as Holofernes :-), so maybe that was the actual problem)

          • dehggial says:

            ha, you’re right, I can’t find it either now. I’ll try again at home…

          • thả diều says:

            after a while, i got distracted to “venga pur minacci” coz it has such a similar feel.. and now have migrated to Ann Murray’s Sifare…

          • dehggial says:

            hm, you think the feel is similar?

          • thả diều says:

            just the music! (i hear “Mozart” ! )

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